Definition

PMF (product-market fit)

Evidence that a real market wants what you built. Jack's point: AI now lets you find out in weeks instead of after a year of prototyping.

From the episode “Why Your AI-Designed Brand Is Invisible, and the 3-Step Fix”

How founders on the podcast use it

The point where the market pulls your product out of you.

What it do!? The 90% Rule: Why Finishing Is the Least Fun Part of Building Anything

The point where a product satisfies strong market demand.

Agent Memory Is the Next Great Moat

The point at which a product satisfies strong market demand. Bob distinguishes "conviction in product" (pre-seed graduation) from full PMF (later).

The Searchable Life: When Memories Get a Database

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